And, of course, by the mid-90s Schoch, Bauval, West, all the regulars. (Them -) The ones not agreeing with him – are arguing what exactly? By that point I had covered Velikovsky, Cayce, almost all the general literature on early history. The point of all that is the establishmentarians were hopelessly out of touch with the march of new discoveries. 2:17:30 – Discussion of whether there were any other ‘species’ of humans in the Americas. Maynard James Keenan is a singer, songwriter, producer, winemaker, actor, and martial artist best known... #1552. It’s a very dangerous situation and a complex modern world…to have these kinds of energies being generated where certain groups of people are saying ‘we are absolutely right, and you are absolutely wrong’…this is a very dangerous path that we are on, and it needs to be changed.” Uses example of nationalism as a deleterious way of looking at the world, and also makes clear his dislike of governments. Their estimate is that there are thousands of these structures remaining in the jungle, and they’re open to how old they may ultimately prove to be.”. Featuring an introduction by Graham Hancock, The Immortality Key is a look into the psychedelic origins of the world’s great spiritual practices and what those might mean for how we view ourselves and the world around us. Also he is one of the few trying to connect archeology, geology and ancient mythology. 2:05:30 – Joe returns to the topic of how the modern world would fare after a global cataclysm, mentions his fears of how everything is digital these days and would disappear in an apocalypse. Social psychologist W. Keith Campbell is a recognized expert on narcissism and its influence on... #1544. I am not saying that I am 100% right. It’s not a simple story, it’s a very complicated story, and we ourselves are a hybrid species. Joe asks whether alignments are affected by precession of the equinoxes. His characterization of anyone not agreeing with him as “them” has always been offensive to me But, this is the era of Donald Trump, after all……. Graham: “It is healthy for a society where adults become self-realized individuals. Attorney and scholar Brian C. Muraresku is the author of The Immortality Key: The Secret History of the Religion with No Name. I would like to be present during that cataclysmic event, if only to satisfy myself that it was indeed a comet. 2:41:15 – Back to Serpent Mound. 43:30 – “What intrigues me is what remains in that 5.5 million square kilometres (of the Amazon) that has *not* been investigated yet.”, We are just, I think, looking at the edges of a mystery. He states clearly that it is not that important to him if his theory is correct, but that it is more important to investigate history more deeply, and be open minded, rather than conclude with no compelling evidence. The fact that we’re only just finding this out now – that we told the story of our past and weren’t aware of this – raises the question of how much else in the story of our past is there that we’re not aware of. 59:00 – Joe replies with his own thoughts on the perils of nationalism and malicious government policies. So in a global cataclysm, actually – at first counter-intuitively – the people who would survive it would be the hunter-gatherers, and an advanced civilization would be smart if they were survivors to seek refuge among hunter-gatherers, to make that the place where they might try to restart their civilization. 1:42:00 – Topic change to the Olmecs. “Our society is not against altered states of consciousness as such. They are not saying that it also wiped out a lost advanced civilization of prehistory, I’m saying that. Hancock then debunks a recent skeptical paper claiming the damage to the fossils was caused by modern roadwork equipment. 2 hours and 59 minutes. Blue honey is a traditional form of preserved psilocybin. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. Your email address will not be published. I’ve been reading this stuff for nearly 60 years. 18:00 – On the mistake of orthodox archaeology maintaining the ‘Clovis first’ theory of American settlement. 625k. I feel good seeing his life’s work start to be born out in major areas. Graham goes on to discuss the Guatemalan LIDAR study mentioned above. The geometry is very complex and precise – that tells us that people with geometric skills were at work in the Amazon. 54:00 – Joe offers his own thoughts on the psychedelic experience, and how it could be useful to modern society in gaining perspective on living together. Graham responds, discussing amazing skills of the Polynesian navigators. I make the case in America Before that they’re connected to a system of ideas which is found all around the world, which is to do with death and the afterlife destiny of the soul.”, “And I go into the issue of ayahuasca in this book, because, first of all, ayahuasca is another example of Amazonian science…someone in the Amazon, out of 150,000 different species of plants and trees, selected two that are not psychoactive on their own, but when put together create an extraordinary visionary brew. 0:15 – Introduction, and mention of Barnes and Noble special edition (with bonus chapter) of Graham’s new book America Before. 1:13:00 – Sudden change in topic to the moving of huge ancient blocks in the Great Pyramid of Egypt, and the rather speculative idea that psychic powers might have been involved. So it’s like saying ‘we’ve done world archaeology, but we’ve just ignored India.’ We’ve done world archaeology, but we’ve just ignored the Amazon.”, 36:00 – On evidence for huge, incredible cities in the Amazon. “But the key issue is not whether the Bimini Road is manmade or not, the key issue is that it features on a map above water…and that tells us somebody was mapping that bit of the world when it was above water, and that takes us back a very long way into the past.”. 2:14:00 – Tunguska explosion mentioned as a likely example of a Taurid meteor impact. There’s even a word for that in science, ‘uniformitarianism’. Joe says, “All this stuff was at one point very controversial, but now far less…whatever archaeologists were trying to resist, they’ve let go of a lot of that, they’ve had to.”, Graham: “This is something that’s really hard for archaeology to explain. If we allow dogma to stop us looking, saying ‘oh it’s impossible that humans were in the Americas 130,000 years ago so we won’t bother to look’ – what a failure of science that is. Graham quickly mentions that apart from Serpent Mound, listeners should check out two other sites in Ohio: Newark and Highbank, “two incredible, amazing, absolutely stunning gorgeous geometric sites.”, America BeforeGraham HancockJoe RoganYounger Dryas. This was so amazing – transforming on a deep level. 1:02:30 – Graham discusses the changes in laws about cannabis as one example of how there are encouraging signs in America that people are realising government control can be unfair and dangerous. 1:52:00 – Joe returns to the topic of Olmecs, asking about the facial features found on the famous ‘Olmec heads‘. But what has changed is that we now have compelling, hard scientific evidence. We’re discovering that our story is much richer, much more textured, much more layered, than we thought it was. Let’s be more tentative, let’s keep an open mind and see where it takes us. 34:15 – Joe brings up fascinating recent discoveries made in South America. Uncover the truth of the past and discover a bold, new course for the future. 22:15 – Discussion of evidence of human presence in America 130,000 years ago at the Cerutti mastodon fossil site – see this 2017 story about the fossils, which appear to have been worked by human hands according to researcher Tom Deméré. . Just a follow up to let you know the evening with Graham and Santha was most excellent. He’s a leading expert in... #1550. Graham extends on this by discussing the problem with rigid religious ideas, and how they can even lead us to kill other humans (citing the recent Sri Lankan attack as evidence). (Have me excused. November 19, 2015 10,862,140 views. September 21, 2014 23,670 views. So that tells us that astronomers were at work in the Amazon. Try that a few times, and see if you run into people like that. Tim Dillon is a comedian, tour guide, and host. 1:27:00 – Graham says if a cataclysm happened today, we in the modern world would have no idea how to survive it.